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All the companies are shouting big claims about using AI in outreach, everyone's releasing an AI SDR, GTM agents, and so on, but we've yet to find an agent or AI system working well, autonomously.\n\nMost of the products in the market are the same old useless outreach products with a bit of AI on top.\n\nWe're building something that's missing, something that hopefully will help a lot of founders that were in the same position as we.\n\nOur agent is handling all the steps in the outreach flow, starting with sourcing the leads and finding the right people to pursue, until actually closing the deal. The agent is assisting our users during the sales process by suggesting angles, messages, ideas, etc., It's a strategic agent that knows when to pause and wait for the right outreach moment, something that no one in the market does, which makes it very effective, since it's reaching the right people at the right time, which is the key to running successful outreach campaigns.","ai_monopoly":false,"ai_monopoly_comment":"I think they'll swallow a lot of different companies but I don't think they'll have a monopoly. I think we'll have a wave of new companies doing things so diverse that it won't be possible for the big players to swallow everyone.","ai_race_winners":["apple","openai","google","meta","xai_spacex"],"ai_race_other":[],"ai_race_comment":"I think Apple is secretly working on a lot of cool AI projects, and they'll be amazing once they step in. Google has a huge pool talent and proprietary data, and I think they'll manage to come up with powerful AI systems as well. Meta is hungry and Mark is pushing hard in this direction, I believe in him. XAI obviously have their own advantages, especially because of SpaceX.","agi_timeline":"2026","agi_timeline_comment":"I think we already achieved AGI and we're already interacting with it every day. The AI systems we're talking to every day are not just predicting the next tokens, they \"understand\" the questions they're getting and they're responding with intelligent responses.","money_disappear":false,"money_disappear_comment":"I don't see it disappearing anytime soon - maybe on Mars if we can colonize at some point, but not on earth.","software_engineers_disappear":false,"software_engineers_disappear_comment":"No, but the profession will change (it already has), and it's going to become a bit different, but it won't disappear for sure.","ai_outlook":"very_optimistic","ai_outlook_comment":"I can't tell exactly where the AI is going, and what it's going to become, but I think we haven't even hit 5% of what it can do, and we haven't even hit 1% of using it in all the industries where it matters. We're using AI to build B2B SaaS companies, but not in medicine, climate, social sciences, space, exploration, chemistry, etc., - all those fields are still waiting for the moment the AI is going to disrupt them. That's when we'll hit real progress.","future_valuable":["trust","distribution","proprietary_data"],"future_valuable_other":[],"future_valuable_comment":"Trust is going to be important for sure, especially when it comes to information, videos, photos, etc., - we'll need to trust that what we see is real and it's not AI generated.\n\nProprietary data is important obviously, since by definition it's something that only you have, and so it becomes even more valuable in a world where more and more things can be replicated increasingly easier.\n\nDistribution of course is even more valuable as before because you'll have way more competition, since the barrier to entry is much lower, and a lot of companies will be able to easily replicate most of the things you'll build. This is why I think distribution is even more important as before.","future_of_work":["new_jobs","most_jobs_change"],"future_of_work_other":[],"future_of_work_comment":"I think that we'll keep working and work is not going anywhere, but we're going to have new kinds of jobs, and the existing jobs will be changed by the AI - in a good way.","contrarian_prediction":"I believe it will be better than the past and the present, I am 99% sure about this, I believe in humanity.","future_vision":"","coding_agents":["codex"],"coding_agents_other":[],"chat_llms":["chatgpt","perplexity"],"chat_llms_other":[],"underrated_product":"Honestly, Render.com - it's very easy to deploy your projects on it, both the frontend, and the backend, the pricing is ok, and everything is working smoothly.","indispensable_product":"I'd probably say Codex at this point, since it's the software we're using the most, to build Outify.","founder_advice":"Never give up, keep moving forward, try new things, stay true to your beliefs, and don't forget to get some sunlight!","networking_goal":"I'd like to meet fellow founders, building any kind of products.","networking_offer":"Happy to share outreach ideas and advice.","anything_else":"Happy to help founders find new customers - drop me a DM to set up your Deal Chaser agent that's going to find customers 24/7 for you.","personal_linkedin_url":"https://www.linkedin.com/in/yan-balau","personal_x_url":null,"personal_website_url":null,"company_website_url":"https://outify.com/","company_linkedin_url":"https://www.linkedin.com/company/outifyhq","company_x_url":"https://x.com/outifyhq","founder_wircle_profile":{"id":"019fa00f-c7a5-722c-b223-c7bbc1624fe8","username":"yan","type":"human","name":"Yan Balau","media":{"avatar":{"light":{"source_url":"https://wircle-media.b-cdn.net/avatars/profiles/019fa00f-c7a5-722c-b223-c7bbc1624fe8/light/1785098295273/source.png","large_url":"https://wircle-media.b-cdn.net/avatars/profiles/019fa00f-c7a5-722c-b223-c7bbc1624fe8/light/1785098295273/512.png","medium_url":"https://wircle-media.b-cdn.net/avatars/profiles/019fa00f-c7a5-722c-b223-c7bbc1624fe8/light/1785098295273/200.png","small_url":"https://wircle-media.b-cdn.net/avatars/profiles/019fa00f-c7a5-722c-b223-c7bbc1624fe8/light/1785098295273/64.png"}},"banner":{"dark":{"source_url":"https://wircle-media.b-cdn.net/banners/profiles/019fa00f-c7a5-722c-b223-c7bbc1624fe8/dark/1785097672461/source.png","large_url":"https://wircle-media.b-cdn.net/banners/profiles/019fa00f-c7a5-722c-b223-c7bbc1624fe8/dark/1785097672461/1600.png","medium_url":"https://wircle-media.b-cdn.net/banners/profiles/019fa00f-c7a5-722c-b223-c7bbc1624fe8/dark/1785097672461/1200.png","small_url":"https://wircle-media.b-cdn.net/banners/profiles/019fa00f-c7a5-722c-b223-c7bbc1624fe8/dark/1785097672461/600.png"}}}},"company_wircle_profile":{"id":"019fad63-6bb8-7358-9b89-48eb5379b3a3","username":"outify","type":"company","name":"Outify","media":{"avatar":{"light":{"source_url":"https://wircle-media.b-cdn.net/avatars/profiles/019fad63-6bb8-7358-9b89-48eb5379b3a3/light/1785321948859/source.png","large_url":"https://wircle-media.b-cdn.net/avatars/profiles/019fad63-6bb8-7358-9b89-48eb5379b3a3/light/1785321948859/512.png","medium_url":"https://wircle-media.b-cdn.net/avatars/profiles/019fad63-6bb8-7358-9b89-48eb5379b3a3/light/1785321948859/200.png","small_url":"https://wircle-media.b-cdn.net/avatars/profiles/019fad63-6bb8-7358-9b89-48eb5379b3a3/light/1785321948859/64.png"}},"banner":{"light":{"source_url":"https://wircle-media.b-cdn.net/banners/profiles/019fad63-6bb8-7358-9b89-48eb5379b3a3/light/1785338748900/source.png","large_url":"https://wircle-media.b-cdn.net/banners/profiles/019fad63-6bb8-7358-9b89-48eb5379b3a3/light/1785338748900/1600.png","medium_url":"https://wircle-media.b-cdn.net/banners/profiles/019fad63-6bb8-7358-9b89-48eb5379b3a3/light/1785338748900/1200.png","small_url":"https://wircle-media.b-cdn.net/banners/profiles/019fad63-6bb8-7358-9b89-48eb5379b3a3/light/1785338748900/600.png"}}}},"published_at":"2026-07-30T19:08:17.414Z","created_at":"2026-07-30T16:30:12.812Z","updated_at":"2026-07-30T19:17:13.499Z"}},"agent":{}}